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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 02:35:59 AM »
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At first I thought maybe, but then I thought of the two nights.  The first one I was literally exhausted, I didn't do anything at all that day just laid on my bed trying to get back to sleep.  The next night when I awoke in the morning I was completely rested and plenty of energy.  I felt at peace and calm the remainder of the day.  I have reflected back on this experience many times and last came to the conclusion that it happened.  I felt the hand of the Lord as solid, just as solid as this keyboard I'm typing on.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2008, 11:39:44 PM »
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I posted this else where but I also thought it was appropriate for this topic as well.


This is what the Scriptures along with an Apocryphal writing has to say about the death of Cain.

Jasher 2:26-35, "And Lamech was old and advanced in years, and his eyes were dim that he could not see, and Tubal Cain, his son, was leading him and it was one day that Lamech went into the field and Tubal Cain his son was with him, and whilst they were walking in the field, Cain the son of Adam advanced towards them; for Lamech was very old and could not see much, and Tubal Cain his son was very young.  And Tubal Cain told his father to draw his bow, and with the arrows he smote Cain, who was yet far off, and he slew him, for he appeared to them to be an animal.  And the arrows entered Cain's body although he was distant from them, and he fell to the ground and died.  And the Lord requited Cain's evil according to his wickedness, which he had done to his brother Abel, according to the word of the Lord which he had spoken.  And it came to pass when Cain had died, that Lamech and Tubal went to see the animal which they had slain, and they saw, and behold Cain their grandfather was fallen dead upon the earth.  And Lamech was very much grieved at having done this, and in clapping his hands together he struck his son and caused his death.  And the wives of Lamech heard what Lamech had done, and they sought to kill him.  And the wives of Lamech hated him from that day, because he slew Cain and Tubal Cain, and the wives of Lamech separated from him, and would not hearken to him in those days.  And Lamech came to his wives, and he pressed them to listen to him about this matter.  And he said to his wives Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice O wives of Lamech, attend to my words, for now you have imagined and said that I slew a man with my wounds, and a child with my stripes for their having done no violence, but surely know that I am old and grey-headed, and that my eyes are heavy through age, and I did this thing unknowingly."

This is in accordance with what is taught in The Book of Moses,  Moses 5:47-54, "And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah: Hear my voice, ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech; for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.  If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech shall be seventy and seven fold;  For Lamech having entered into a covenant with Satan, after the manner of Cain, wherein he became Master Mahan, master of that great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan; and Irad, the son of Enoch, having known their secret, began to reveal it unto the sons of Adam;  Wherefore Lamech, being angry, slew him, not like unto Cain, his brother Abel, for the sake of getting gain, but he slew him for the oath’s sake.  For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret acombination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother.  Wherefore the Lord cursed Lamech, and his house, and all them that had covenanted with Satan; for they kept not the commandments of God, and it displeased God, and he ministered not unto them, and their works were abominations, and began to spread among all the sons of men. And it was among the sons of men.  And among the daughters of men these things were not spoken, because that Lamech had spoken the secret unto his wives, and they rebelled against him, and declared these things abroad, and had not compassion;  Wherefore Lamech was despised, and cast out, and came not among the sons of men, lest he should die."
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2008, 05:32:05 PM »
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An excerpt from Spencer W.  Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 127-128

"On the sad character Cain, an interesting story comes to us from Lycurgus A.  Wilson's book on the life of David W.  Patten.  From the book I quote an extract from a letter by Abraham O.  Smoot giving his recollection of David Patten's account of meeting "a very remarkable person who had represented himself as being Cain. "As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me….  His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle.  He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair.  His skin was very dark.  I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro.  He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men.  About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight. ”

I just thought this was interesting.  For all I've read on this subject I still couldn't say whether Cain is still "wandering the Earth" or not, although I lean toward "not"
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2009, 09:53:07 PM »
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Cain is still wandering the Earth. He didn't die. In the Book of Genesis I think it says that he was cursed to walk the Earth forever.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 03:25:29 PM »
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Comments: Yes, I understand that he is still alive.  He was cursed that he could not die. Even in his desperation he will attempt to take his own life to end his suffering, but will only suffer the pains of his attempts, and will not die.  That was his curse, as I understand.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 10:08:00 PM »
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When Cain killed his brother Abel, the Lord set a mark on him that whoever see him won't kill him. Where is he now? Did he die on the flood or he still alive somewhere?
Where was the last Bigfoot sighting?
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2010, 12:35:03 AM »
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Quote from: tragula link=topic=34. msg3795#msg3795 date=1281478080
Where was the last Bigfoot sighting?

Are you suggesting Cain is bigfoot? I searched quite a bit about it and never could fully understand why Pres.  Kimball added that encounter story in the miracle of forgiveness.
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 06:25:00 PM »
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Are you suggesting Cain is bigfoot? I searched quite a bit about it and never could fully understand why Pres.  Kimball added that encounter story in the miracle of forgiveness.
I was just trying to be funny because David W. Patten's description of him sounds an awful lot like descriptions of Bigfoot.  I don't know why Pres. Kimball put that account in his book, but I think it's interesting.
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