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« on: October 29, 2008, 11:55:29 AM »
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Im sure most of us are familiar with the quote from the bible "judge not lest ye be judged" if that is the case what about king benjamin when he tells the people he must tell them to repent so that "his garments may be found spotless" of their blood. Is he not judging the people. Perhaps the meaning has been perverted and we are actually commanded to "judge others so that we won't be judged" I'm looking forward to hearing what others thing about this.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2008, 02:33:04 PM »
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If you throw in the next verse we read:
"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

Meaning that whatever judgment you use on others would also be used on you.  So if you are judging others based off of some worldly way (looks, money and so forth)  then that same type of judgment put it back on ourselves and see how you would like to be judged in that manner.  This is what I believe Christ was teaching. 

With King Benjamin he was trying to have people look at themselves through God's eyes.  Maybe he did use a little guilt to get that outcome, but that was King Benjamin's goal. 

Add to this is the Joseph Smith Translation
"Judge not unrighteously, that ye be not judged: but judge righteous judgment"

This does change things.  It’s now a matter of judging things righteously.  Which is what we should do. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2008, 02:46:55 PM »
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We judge others all the time, the key is JS translation that was posted:

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"Judge not unrighteously, that ye be not judged: but judge righteous judgment"
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2008, 04:17:26 PM »
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I forgot about the JS translation but it does certainly make more sense when compared to mosiah.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 02:39:31 AM »
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I find people who play this "do not judge" card are usually in one of two categories:

1. They want to do what they want without consequence
2. They do not want anyone to tell them they are wrong.

Truth is... there are many things we are judged for throughout life by others wether we like it or not. For me the Lord is saying do not judge wrongfully or with malice, because if you judge in this manner you will be judged in like manner. However we have to make judgment calls, were it not so... strange people could enter our homes, Bishops woul give temple recommends to anyone who just answers right, policemen would not inspect a suspicious person, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 11:42:10 PM »
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From the context, it is clear that when the Savior said that we should not judge unrighteously, what He meant was that we should not find fault with others for doing the same things that we do.  In other words, we should not be hypocrites.  If there was one thing that the Savior frowned upon it was hypocrisy.  A good example:  one time I saw someone driving out of the parking lot at work without stopping at the stop sign, and I judge them.  But then, when I left work to go home, what did I do?  The exact same thing--I failed to stop at the stop sign.  How can I expect to be judged?
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